Curse

Dallcingi · May 12, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

I think they mean go back to playing pve... most people start GW playing pve not pvp.
no one looks at your armor in a heated battle (and they can care less too)... only on obs mode.
the armor u wear doesnt even matter. those pvpers who talk trash say "go back to pve sway noob" to everyone even if u got a pvp char.

N1ghtstalker · May 12, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

it's just a game
you play it for fun and that's it
no need to cus at people cuz they play pvp with a pve char
i play pvp sometimes with my pve char
she has obsi armor but so what
i like pve more then pvp but sometimes i go play pvp cuz i get bored
if ppl start cussing at me cuz i'm playing pvp with a char that has obsi i'd give them a carebear

Ultima pyromancer · May 12, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

lol spiritway

lol radiants

lol

*sigh*

I do admire the way you come in to a discussion and put something like that

But can we keep this more on topic. As i said, this isn't about my skill as a player, i just wanted to see every one else's opinion on this. The point of this wasn't because the kid bullied me in the playground and i needed to cry to Mrs green. The other team didn't know what armor or weapon sets i had, other than they were PVE weapons and not just created by pressing J. I love PVE and PVP but i don't get why there are people like that

Thanks for the input anyway

I Can Cure Cancer · May 12, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

If you win the match why should you care?

MisterB · May 12, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by aznhalf

Could be because you're missing out on half of your weapon sets.

Before you PvP with your Pve have at least the following.

+10 vs all damage fortitude shields(-5 20 is baed)
Cripple shield/blind shield for front line
40/40 sets for every one of your spells(or 40/20/20)

Also +30 on the sword is the way to go. And survivors all the way.

This. Also, you claim to have 1 minor rune, 1 Superior Vigor, and 4 Vitae, for a total of 6 runes. Typo?
Who cares what the opposing team says? Why should you? Why ask us?

MithranArkanere · May 12, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

PvP players can get Tournament rewards.

They are just envious. Forget about them.

OF course, they should fix issues like:
- PvP character cannot 'modify' pets.
- PvE characters can get mods that are impossible to replicate in PvP, like a 15% (always) inherent modifier or things like Flint's Artifact.

They should fix that, but there's really no need for anything else.

Alleji · May 12, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

PvP players can get Tournament rewards.

They are just envious. Forget about them.

OF course, they should fix issues like:
- PvP character cannot 'modify' pets.
- PvE characters can get mods that are impossible to replicate in PvP, like a 15% (always) inherent modifier or things like Flint's Artifact.

They should fix that, but there's really no need for anything else.

Yeah, but flint's artifact is bad and I've yet to see someone using a 15/always weapon in PvP.

Sure, there are minor differences, like r8 (and r7) items, but they really are minor.

aznhalf · May 12, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

lol

*sigh*

I do admire the way you come in to a discussion and put something like that

But can we keep this more on topic. As i said, this isn't about my skill as a player, i just wanted to see every one else's opinion on this. The point of this wasn't because the kid bullied me in the playground and i needed to cry to Mrs green. The other team didn't know what armor or weapon sets i had, other than they were PVE weapons and not just created by pressing J. I love PVE and PVP but i don't get why there are people like that

Thanks for the input anyway

They were probably trash talking for the sake of it.

But the reason people may frown on it is because most of the time people bring their pve's in they are not close to PvP ready which you have proved for us.

Obviously nobody cares if GvG'rs do it because its pretty safe to assume that they're doing it right.

Bottomline there is no reason to gimp your character when rolling a pvp takes all but 5 seconds. This has been said a million times over.

aznhalf · May 12, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

PvP players can get Tournament rewards.

They are just envious. Forget about them.

OF course, they should fix issues like:
- PvP character cannot 'modify' pets.
- PvE characters can get mods that are impossible to replicate in PvP, like a 15% (always) inherent modifier or things like Flint's Artifact.

They should fix that, but there's really no need for anything else.

Pretty sure most serious PvP'rs would just buy what they needed. Req7 shields aren't being bought by Pve players.

You act like it would be hard for a predominately PvP oriented person to go out and get PvE exclusive items.

Snograt · May 12, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Can I just express my admiration for the mod who took the OP's request for a thread name-change totally literally?

Classic.

/skulks away from nasty PvP thread

Koudelka · May 12, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

And people ask me why I never high end pvp...

Aethetics are always important to me, as most of the pvp creatable items are not that good to look at. At the end of the day though, someone with that pvp sword will still be as effective as someone with the torment one.

English Warrior · May 12, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

if a pve char has the write equipment and has the right skills and can play the builds thats fine i see.

Kusandaa · May 12, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

At OP: something similar happened to me. Got called a "PvE noob" while I was PvPing on my necro, who was sporting FoW armor, a chaos axe and a Gloom shield. Can't remember if I won or lost the match (was HA) but IIRC, the other guy's team HAD PvE characters too.

At some point I think it's just something to piss you off (didn't work on my case) or they are jealous indeed.

Nevin · May 12, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

PvPing with PvE characters is pointless unless you have perfect gear. LIKE ME!

iridescentfyre · May 12, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

lol

*sigh*

I do admire the way you come in to a discussion and put something like that

No, its actually a valid argument. If you're going into upper-level PvP on a PvE character you had better have equipment that you chose based on its real value in PvP vs. the alternatives, not because its "what you've always used for caster classes." There will always be retards that call you a PvE noob just because of your appearance, but if you don't have the best equipment options available, you have no grounds to defend yourself. When you go in with a -5/20% shield and Radiant insignia, you're enforcing the stereotypes that you made this thread to denounce.

I'm sorry if that's harsh and I don't mean it to be a flame, its an honest critique of the situation.

Yichi · May 12, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

And people ask me why I never high end pvp...

Since when was SWAY vs SWAY in HA high end PvP???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koudelka

Aesthetics are always important to me, as most of the pvp creatable items are not that good to look at.

reward points solves this problem and can be used for something other than keys...

Ok enough of that.

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

I quickly get a SWAY party and we get to underworld. We win that round and half the other team starts spamming at me go PVE with your Skinned Sword noob.

Honestly, you're playing the 2008 version of IWAY, what do you expect? Granted they were probably either running some other gay fotm, or really terrible... But people can get angry when they don't autowin over noobs playing fotm. It happens.

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

Now i understand why people dont like PVE players in PVP arenas, because in guild wars, every little advantage counts.

I really shouldn't go on after this as this has a whole heap of stupidity attached to it...

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

But the thing is, my rit has the same runes as a PVP char, 5 radiants, 1 minor rune, superior vigor and 4 vitae. My Caster set is a +5 energy undead sword of fortitude and a +12 hrc 20% channeling focus. My defensive set is a +5 energy +7 vs physical damage undead sword of fortitude and a -5 20% shield. and a high energy set (15 -1)

You shouldn't be in a sword in the first place unless you're in your weapon/shield set. If you're casting, then you want a 40/40 set. Also change your sword mod to +30, change your shield mod to something useful, and ditch the radiants.

Dr Strangelove · May 12, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Yichi

Since when was SWAY vs SWAY in HA high end PvP???

Since player vs. alliance battle NPCs was low end PvP.

Age · May 12, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

lol spiritway

lol radiants

That is what sway stands for and I would say most ppl player thier RP char in PvP.

Yichi · May 12, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Since player vs. alliance battle NPCs was low end PvP.

wait they aren't about the same? newz 2 me.

also in most PvP formats, your chat box should look like this:

[ ] Local Chat [x] Guild Chat [x] Team Chat [ ] Trade [ ] Alliance Chat

Then you don't have to deal with stupidity unless its on your own team.

freekedoutfish · May 12, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

Now i understand why people dont like PVE players in PVP arenas, because in guild wars, every little advantage counts.

Considering the elitists (sorry the PVP) players have always tried to preach to us that GWs was designed to make players start in PVE and then move into PVP, I really dont understand how it makes sense to complain when PVE players do actually move into PVP.